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14/04/2014 07:27:54
Tim Guy
The day was originally requested for Monday 7th April (I think ???) but eventually ran on Friday 11th (the Friday before Good Friday). The day was a single session of 25 cars, the other two sessions being Club MSV Novices and Bikes. The MSV Novice session was seriously under subscribed with about 10 cars. The event went on sale at 8:00 3rd Feb and was sold out by that evening. We established a reserve list of 9 within 3 days which ultimately grew to 14. Our session ran full but due to 3 cancellations in the last week the reserve list evaporated to just one person (who then booked into the MSV session). We had two MSV instructors provided within the contract price. Day cost was £120/130 Instruction sold well at £13 we had instruction running up to 15:20 2nd Driver £16 - we had 7 second drivers booked in. [B]What went right :-[/B] Check in was better this year. MSV provided a second person (Carole) dedicated for our check in with a separate queue (run by Lee-Anne) for Club MSV cars & bikes. Briefing by Andrew was good using a PA system and our overtaking / courtesy rules were emphasised. Noise test started at 7:30 promptly and queues were short. Morning and Afternoon classroom instruction (11:40 @ 15:40) was provided, well attended and nicely presented. The overtaking rules seemed fairly well observed with no complaints excepting one car with an inexperienced second driver not letting by as much as he should. We had two first timers who got on well. Both thanked us and said they would come again. There were also 2 MGs in the MSV session who were approached and said they would be interested in other MGoT events. [B]What went wrong -[/B] not much that was in our control Sessions ran a little late in the morning but Cadwell have a PA system in the paddock used to call drivers to the assembly area. No complaints. Progressive speed sighting laps didn't work. They were fine for the first 3 laps but after the pace had increased, slower drivers did not back off to the point where the pace car eventually caught up with the tail and decided to just give up and go back to the pits. Three red flagged sessions; two for a mechanicals and one for a rather nasty off in the last session by Richard Martin with damage to front and rear NS wings, bumper etc. A lot of mechanical issues for 25 cars, (I think 4 or 5) plus Richard Wale's Minor was sounding rough and was seen abandoned on the roadside on the way home. [B]Forms :-[/B] Attached below. The indemnity has the additional car on car no claim clause added but really needs some rationalisation [B]Contacts :-[/B] [EMAIL="Nick.Rice@msv.com"]Nick.Rice@msv.com[/EMAIL] for contract & initial organisation [EMAIL="Lee-Anne.Madgett@MSV.com"]Lee-Anne.Madgett@MSV.com[/EMAIL] who is based at Cadwell does the admin organisation. [FONT="][SIZE=3][EMAIL="andrew.crighton@msv.com"]andrew.crighton@msv.com[/EMAIL][/SIZE] [/FONT]Chief Instructor Andrew Creighton is a very pleasant and competent chap, well worth copying into final day details emails.Also contactable on [EMAIL="admin@adventmotorsport.co.uk"]admin@adventmotorsport.co.uk[/EMAIL][B] - [/B]seems he does some stuff and instructing on the side.
14/04/2014 10:40:14
Dave P
A couple of observations from me: The problem with the sighting laps was with the speed of the MSV car; he went off like a bat out of hell! John D was behind him, then the silver TF with the ironing board on the boot, then me and we were all able to keep up. Michale Baggs was behind me (not experienced, first time at Cadwell) and had no chance. The pace car only slowed down when he got to the back of the queue. I know we asked for blue flags but I did not see any. Do we know if they were shown to the slow driver that Tim mentions? Tim and I had a word with Richard Martin for overtaking under the red flag (which he denied) and John D and I had a word with Jonathan Taylor who was indicating but then flooring it so there was not room to actually pass. (He held both of us up in the final session) He was fine and accepted it gracefully.
15/04/2014 06:27:30
Tim Guy
Thanks Dave, I hadn't realised the pace car set off at high velocity; I was at the back. From what I could see, the sighting laps rapidly broke up into at least 3 chains. Who was driving the pace car? [B]We need to note to ask them for slower sighting laps next year. [/B] Andrew Creighton and I discussed the day at our early meeting and he came up with the idea of progressive speed laps rather than everyone having to come back into the assembly area and back out again for free driving. Probably due to the unusual circuit exit, Cadwell are very keen that people can find the way off track and back to assembly or paddock. Clearly it didn't work this way LOL. We did ask for the blue flag, both in email and on the day, but as its not something they usually use at Cadwell, I guess the circuit marshals are just out of practice using it. I only had one issue with not being let by but I guess that with the less than predictable handling of my car (until the suspension collapsed completely) I was mostly letting by rather than needing to get by. Richard Martin came back to me later and apologised for the red flag overtake. He had asked around about the sequence of events that session and concluded that he had missed the first red. As was later unfortunately demonstrated, he was generally over-driving a bit throughout the day. Incidentally, coming out of an email from SteveB a few months ago regarding terminology; whether it should be sighting laps or pace laps, I note we call them familiarisation laps in our indemnities and day guides. We might want to tidy our act up on this a bit.