05/08/2010 12:36:14 Trophy-Steve Hi All, I think I may have asked this before ?!... I want to fit [B]Stainless Steel Braided Hoses[/B] to my [B]Trophy[/B], However, There seems to be some disagreement ( most of the big name sellers are not convincing me) as to whether standard MGF brake hoses fit the Trophy with Twin pot calipers. There is nothing more frustrating than ordering / waiting / arriving / jacking car up and finding they are the wrong ones !!! Has anybody fitted them to their Trophy ? Are they the same as single pot caliper MGF ? Where is the best place to buy them ? Many thanks Steve

05/08/2010 22:27:10 Gary&BVZ Hi Steve ..Best suggeston I can come up with is to ask you local MG agent to check the part No's of the hoses and see if they are the same or different ... If you do not have a local agent try a phone call to Sterling Auto in Eastbourne and they might be able to help ..Code is 01323 *******....

06/08/2010 09:51:30 Martin C Hi Steve, I would have thought the MG F Centre would be able to answer this, they only list one set. Although Brown & Gammons list a set saying not suitable for TF, so I can see where you're coming from. But as the F Centre only deal F's they I presume would know, have a look here [URL="http://www.mgfcentre.com/index.htm"]http://www.mgfcentre.com/index.htm[/URL] The other who would know I think is Mike Satur, have a look here, [URL="http://www.mikesatur.com/acatalog/index.html"]http://www.mikesatur.com/acatalog/index.html[/URL]

06/08/2010 14:05:57 Trophy-Steve Thanks for the replys. I've done the ringing around and... Mike Satur - Wont answer the phone :mad: Brown & Gammons - THINK they are the same :rolleyes: Sterling Auto Eastbourne - THINK they are NOT the same :confused: MGF Centre - Say they are the same, its the TF thats different :cool: Moss Europe - Dont Know :( The Goodridge website only list one part for the MGF ;) and as I've run out of smilies, wont ring anyone else... [I][B]Oh the joys of owning a Trophy[/B][/I] !! :D I'm gonna take a chance and go for the MGF ones and hope !!!

06/08/2010 14:15:33 Martin C [quote=Trophy-Steve]MGF Centre - Say they are the same, its the TF thats different :cool: [/quote] I'd go with these guys :)

06/08/2010 15:51:44 Gary&BVZ Owning a ZR 160 isn't without its problems when fitting braided hoses ... You can check out the problems I had from my , and PRBs , postings in 2008 ..Hope you have less trouble than I did ... Cheers ..Gary ... The thread is here, [URL="http://pitlane.mgs-on-track.com/showthread.php?t=864"]http://pitlane.mgs-on-track.com/showthread.php?t=864[/URL], Martin :D

06/08/2010 16:46:16 Trophy-Steve [quote=Gary&BVZ]Owning a ZR 160 isn't without its problems when fitting braided hoses ... You can check out the problems I had from my , and PRBs , postings in 2008 ..Hope you have less trouble than I did ... Cheers ..Gary ...[/quote] OH DEAR ! Car is going in next week for service , MOT and other bits... and was hoping to change the Brake hoses as, bit by bit, I'm going stainless underneath !! Maybe a re-think is needed ? Like the comment in one of your posts "if it aint broke.... " :eek:

07/08/2010 07:55:06 Tim Guy I [B][I]think[/I][/B] the AP 4 pot callipers have a different banjo fitting to the standard F. The rear's are all identical throughout the F/TF range I got mine from here [URL="http://www.brakes4u.co.uk/itemdetail.asp?catID=2478"]http://www.brakes4u.co.uk/itemdetail.asp?catID=2478[/URL] The price is the same for all Fs, just specify MGF Trophy 160 in your order. The stainless braid are maybe a bit nicer but not essential. For the fronts, you need to cut the old hose bracket off the damper spacer and fit the generic clamp that comes with the kit. There isn't anywhere to bolt it so I just sandwiched mine between the spacer. [IMG]http://www.timguydesign.f2s.com/pics/Goodrich-1-2.jpg[/IMG] It is important that the hose shouldn't rub on anything and be well clear of rotating parts. I fitted the plastic spring back on to prevent it rubbing on the bodywork but it might not be necessary. [IMG]http://www.timguydesign.f2s.com/pics/Goodrich-1-3.jpg[/IMG] You might find the hose just touching the top arm at extreme full lock but I think this is OK for the length of time the steering will be in this position. I haven't seen any abrasion in 2 years. [IMG]http://www.timguydesign.f2s.com/pics/Goodrich-1.jpg[/IMG] EDIT [B]Oh[/B] and watch out for the banjo bolt bottoming out in the calliper thread. The Goodrich banjos are sometimes a tad thinner. You might need to fit an additional seal washer.

07/08/2010 14:00:22 Trophy-Steve Thanks Tim, Martin and Gary&BVZ for the reply's. The car is going in on Friday 13th :eek: for service + MOT... bearing in mind the date (superstitious, Moi ?) and the fact I'm going to Stowe Track Day the folowing Tuesday...I have decided to hold off until afterwards ! Many thanks for all the info, which will be very useful when 'fitting time' comes !

07/08/2010 21:31:21 Martin C Just a point about adding washers to pack out the banjo bolt, they should be proper brake banjo washers, copper type, not mild or stainless steel type.

08/08/2010 05:27:03 Tim Guy Curiously and initially worryingly when I fitted them, my sealing washers were stainless steel. They don't leak but I kept a keen eye on them for the first couple of months.

08/08/2010 10:17:34 Trophy-Steve [quote=Tim Guy]Curiously and initially worryingly when I fitted them, my sealing washers were stainless steel. They don't leak but I kept a keen eye on them for the first couple of months.[/quote] As suggested, I called Sterling autos (x-power), They said (and were very helpfull) they had fitted them to a Trophy last year and he remembered having to put rubber ones back on the front as the S/S one's would not get a good seal !!! I also asked the question on a-nother forum.. [URL="http://www.mgfregister.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5704#p46193"]http://www.mgfregister.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5704#p46193[/URL] [URL="http://www.mgfregister.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5704#p46208"]http://www.mgfregister.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5704#p46208[/URL] I'm starting to think again...[I] if it aint broke !... :rolleyes: [/I]

08/08/2010 18:49:21 Tim Guy Goodrich hoses do a good job of improving brake feel and are really not difficult to do despite what others may say. The other thing to consider is the servo stiffening bracket. A bit more of a faff to fit but well worth it imo. Have a look at Rob Bell's site [URL="http://www.mgf.ultimatemg.com/group2/common_problems/brake_servo.htm"]here[/URL]